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by Lawrence Winters

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The Ballad of Father Judge
remembering the heros of 9/11/2001
by "Ballad Ear" George D.H. Hertzberg

Veterans And Civilians Break Silence, Help Each Other Heal

War doesn’t only touch the lives of those on the front lines -- it extends to all of us, whether we’re conscious of it or not. That’s what the Veteran-Civilian Dialogue aims to highlight by bringing together members of the two groups, which can often seem polarized, for the purpose of healing.

The Huffington Post Alana B. Elias Kornfeld First Posted: 04/25/11 12:58 PM ET Updated: 04/26/11 04:55 PM

New:    New York Times Week-in-Pictures February 11.
Larry Winters reads a poem at the Veterans and Civilians Dialogue (Photo credit: Michael Nagle for The New York Times)

War Veterans and Civilians in Dialogue
"Talking Out Loud About War, and Coming Home"

... and a half years ago: there have been similar events in Seattle, Indianapolis and on the Internet, via the virtual world Second Life....

New York Times.  February 8, 2011 - By KAREN ZRAICK - N.Y. / Region

"It turns out that this book is not only for men, or veterans; I have gotten great feedback from women readers:"

The Making and Unmaking of a Marine is a very powerful story about growing up male and going off to Vietnam, a world I could know nothing about. The introduction was gripping and drew me immediately into the story. Every chapter deals with something dramatic or startling, propelling the reader on and on, sometimes against his will, sometimes squinting, so as not to take in the full impact of the disturbing events. Winter's treatment of his experience is quite compelling, and I thoroughly appreciated the writing style.

The descriptions are beautiful and awful, at once bringing me right into scenes I could not possibly imagine. The author makes no judgment of his actions; there is no flowery pretense, no rationalizations, nor excuses. It simply lays out the story of one of thousands of young men, barely more than kids, who went off to war with no real idea of what they were getting themselves into. We see their ideals get forever changed when subjected to the horrors of war.

I came to partially understand, and feel, on a visceral level, the inner conflict of these men who have one vision before signing up, and then find themselves dealing with things so drastically different…the slaughter of innocent people, the senseless destruction…things they can't possibly understand, let alone process and absorb. The real tragedy is that they, themselves, think they know what they are signing on for and it seems noble. The most powerful line in the story for me was, "I was proud to be a marine, I was ashamed to be a marine." This inner conflict has taken a lifetime to resolve and I am left wondering if one can ever really come to terms with it. I want to thank Mr. Winters for having the courage to delve into his soul and dredge this up, putting a personal face on the Vietnam War. It is such an important story which needs to be told.

Claudia Battaglia,  11/16/2010  (This review is also on Amazon.com)

See what more women are saying about Larry's book.

About Larry Winters:


Photo: Lauren Thomas

Born and raised in New Paltz, NY, Larry Winters entered the United States Marine Corps after high school and served in Vietnam 1969-1970. Twenty-five years later, by then a licensed mental health counselor at Four Winds Hospital in Katonah, NY, the veteran returned to Vietnam with other heath care professionals to study Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) in the Vietnamese people and to make peace with his past. Larry is a widely published poet, men's group leader and group psychotherapist.

He has  published his book titled "The Making and Un-making of a Marine".

Email: larry@makingandunmaking.com

Larry is a member of the
Millrock Writers Collective

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"All is One" by Larry Winters
"red bud variations" photography, video and music by Peter Pitzele
Larry Winters on Veteran-Civilian Dialogues
The first virtual Veteran-Civilian Dialogue - September 17, 2010

March 7th: At the Intersections - Spirituality in the Age of the Machine

Medal of Honor recipients Speak Out to save lives by encouraging America's military to seek help when adjusting to life after combat, particularly for post-traumatic stress (PTS).

The Veteran - Civilian Dialogue is a comprehensive and replicable program that works to empower veterans to fully re-integrate into civilian society and educate civilians about the unique needs and strengths of returning military personnel. The first virtual Veteran-Civilian Dialogue was held on September 17, 2010 in the virtual world of Second Life.

Veteran Civilian Dialog

The dam opened last night [February 4, 2011] at Intersections with the Veteran Civilian Dialog, there were no seats left, in fact I'm sad to say we had to turn people away. The New York Times reporter Karen Zraicle spent the evening with us. I encourage you to keep your eyes open for the times Metro section for her article on the Veteran Civilian Dialog.

We also had the honor of David Gerson filming the entire event. One of David’s films has been an official selection at this year’s 2011 Sundance Film Festival. In a brief conversation with David afterwards it was my pleasure to hear his excitement about the healing power of the Veteran Civilian Dialog.

Another a long-awaited creation the first time showing of Startled Cat a Canadian and US based company who Intersections International has been working with to create a second life presentation of the Veteran Civilian Dialog. Some time ago a Veteran Civilian Dialog was filmed on Second Life. With the creative talents of Jenna Morane, Marty Keltz, Grace Buford and many others the first Veteran Civilian Dialog trailer was created and shown last night.  Please watch the YouTube [above and] rate and make comments this helps to get it higher on the viewing list.

The Veteran Civilian Dialog has been an exciting journey and I would like to thank all of you for your support in helping us deliver what I believe to be the most underreported and misunderstood issue of our time, a separation of those who have fought and protected those who lavish in the freedoms we hold today.

Please forward this note and the YouTube address to those who may hold interest in the Veteran Civilian Dialog and more importantly to those who do not. Our next Veterans Civilian Dialog will be on April 1, 2011 please make a note of it and call early for a reservation.  

Go well, Larry Winters


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More about Larry Winters:

"Nothing Means Nothing"

a play written by Larry Winters
that addresses some of the hidden questions of veterans lives.


May 30 is Memorial Day
and November 11 is Veterans Day

but we should be grateful to our veterans and service men and women every day of the year.  So call someone you know who served and say "Thank You!"

Writings:

 


We are putting new YouTube pieces on regularly. Please look and rate them all comments are welcome
The book The Making and Unmaking of a Marine is also available at Amazon.com
Go well. Larry Winters
Friend's film tells Marine's Afghan story

By Michael Risinit • mrisinit@lohud.com • lohud.com • March 22, 2010   Click for article as it appeared in lohud.com


 In the News:

Afghanistan reminiscent of Vietnam, two veterans say

By Jeremiah Horrigan
Times Herald-Record
Posted: December 05, 2009 - 2:00 AM
Photo: Times Herald-Record/CHET GORDON

In his speech at West Point Tuesday, President Obama rejected the notion that his plan for further involvement in Afghanistan has any parallel to the Vietnam conflict.

But parallels abound for two New Paltz Vietnam vets; a third Vietnam vet says he sees parallels to the Iraq war.

New Paltz native Larry Winters joined the Marines out of high school and served in Vietnam in 1969 and 1970. He is also the author of "The Making and Un-Making of a Marine," an autobiography. While he thought the president did a good job of explaining the situation in Afghanistan, Winters doesn't like what he sees down the road.

"The strongest parallels I see between Afghanistan and Vietnam is the military leadership making the same kind of impossible-to-win decisions. The lives of U.S. soldiers are being spent on issues that are remote to our homeland." 

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 Parris Island to the Hanoi Hilton
  a poem by Larry Winters
a journey from home to Vietnam
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"Please rate this video and send it to as many folks as you think need to know we are fighting two war right now." Larry

Nobody in Baghdad Gonna Bag Your Dad
  a poem by Larry Winters
set to photos of the war in Iraq
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"Please rate this video and send it to as many folks as you think need to know we are fighting two war right now." Larry

See more YouTube videos of poetry and other writings by the author.
Hear the author read more of his poetry
This section of the website is updated regularly.  Please come back and visit often.


 by Larry Winters
Featured story from VietNow National Magazine, November 11, 2009

Some of us have taken an oath, swearing a solemn pledge, at one time or another. Those of us who have been in the military have all taken an oath that put our lives on the line for our country. But many Americans have never taken a serious oath of any kind, especially not an oath that pledges any kind of commitment to this country. Is it time now for a “Citizens Oath”?

... [Full text of article from VietNow National Magazine  (will open in a new window)]

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